Best Production Rifle?
Posted 11 April 2006 - 08:12 PM
Remember the Ark was built by amateurs, the titanic by professionals.
Posted 02 July 2006 - 10:56 PM
Posted 04 July 2006 - 07:27 PM
The sad thing is the new high dollar rifles have a hard time making <2.5" groups. Guys buy them and the factories sell them, but I think it's a crime.
Hey guys. The question isn't really specific enough. I voted NEF for one reason. Best rifle for the money. If I had more to spend I would probibly go with kimber or weatherby. I've got 2 NEF's 243 and 25-06 both shoot sub moa at 100 yards with factory ammo. There are a lot of high $$ rifles that can't do that.
The new Rem 798 and 799 can only do 2.5". ANd they seem proud of it.
My ol 24" bbl Rem 721 will shoot 1" groups all day for a good hold as many other good off the shelf ol guns will too.
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Posted 13 July 2006 - 01:55 PM
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Posted 31 December 2006 - 02:55 PM
Anyhow, back to the show. They don't neccesarily pick what most would deem the best, just because they had happened to own one or use one many moons ago. They established a list of criteria that they applied the items under review against.
For instance, in rating a rifle, you will need a list of issues to apply your evaluation against. Bear in mind also, that the question at hand isn't, "What is the best rifle?". It's, "What is the best PRODUCTION rifle?". You'll need to evaluate issues like:
1. Mass production vs quality control
2. Availability to the masses
3. Cost @ what type of quality
7. Dealership availabilty
8. Company reputation
9. Customer feedback
10.Options available ie: Blued, SS, nickel plated, variable length barrels, stock materials such as walnut, laminate, synthetic, etc., etc.
Well you get the jest. I'm sure there's a heap more items that could be placed on the list of issues to be reviewed.
Anyhow, back to the show. You'd be amazed at what items were rated as #1. In the helicopters, it was the Robinson R-22. It was the smallest of all those in the top 10, yet it's mass production and the afordability to the general public, put it over the top, even over Appache attach helicopters and Bell's 212 or Hueys. And in the motorcycles, it wasn't the renowned Harley/Davidson, or British Triumphs, or an amercan built Indian or even an Italian Dicati. It was Honda's 50cc that so popularized putting the world on 2 wheels in the 60s and 70s. It virtually changed the image of who rode a morotcycle world wide.
So getting back to the production rifle rating. Don't neccesarily think that it'd be Weatherby or a custom made Tikka or even a John Browning Belgium made. You're likely gon'na have to look a little deeper than the depths of your own gun locker to sypher this one out. Even then, it'll be the things that guys like us will debate over a beer every now and then. BTW: In the weapons review on television, the AK-47 topped out the firearms, and was only beaten out by MAN.
Geoff / TBow
Posted 15 January 2007 - 07:47 PM
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Posted 15 June 2007 - 10:39 PM
This rifle might surprise some of you, but a friend of mine bought a Browning BAR in 7mm Mag. I had my doubts about a semi automatic high power rifle like that, but when I shot it.. WOW!! what a nice rifle to shoot. And accurate to boot. So it is hard to say, "this production rifle is the best." I guess it is the rifle you are most comfortable with and have the most confidence in.
Posted 14 December 2007 - 06:54 PM
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Posted 03 April 2008 - 11:05 PM
It comes with a synthetis pillared stock. You have to step up a couple notches and a lot more money to get the same thing in a Rem. And, you can't get the muzzle break either.
And, the Savage is now the only mass produced rifle (I'm pretty sure from reading) that still offers a button style rifling. the others use hammer rifling which produces a lot more stress on the barrel and you have to either heat it and cool it, or some are putting them in very cold temperatures in an effort to make the barrel true the whole length. Buttor rifling doesn't require this and cause much les stress on the steel.
I've been doing alot of research on barrelling and was surprised to find this out. The cutting method is still the best as it cause almost no stress and is very uniform, but there aren't that many of the huge machines left that can do this and it'sa lot longer process. A lot of custom barrel makers use the cut method because they proudce the kind of barrels that professional shooters demand...
But, I will go for the next best, the Savage with the button rilfing. Even there you want the pull through method rather than the push through method as there is a small chance that you will get inconsistiencies with the push method..
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