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#1 REDGREEN

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Posted 02 January 2007 - 07:49 PM

Here is a chart for felt recoil on various calibers for you folks that are thinking about a new cannon to play with. :D
Recoil Bullet Cartridge
(foot weight
pounds) (grains

0-9.9Foot Pounds
0.8 100 32-20 Win
0.9 86 25-20 Win.
1.0 180 38-40 Win.
2.4 200 44-40 Win.
2.6 110 30 M-1 Carbine
4.2 158 .357 Mag
5.8 255 38-55 Win.
7.5 150 30-30 Win.
8.1 100 250 Savage
8.5 170 .30 Rem.
9.1 190 303 Savage
9.3 170 30-30 Win.
9.4 120 7-30 Waters
9.6 200 .348 Win

10-19.9 Foot-Pounds

10.0 80 .243 Win
10.1 240 .44 Rem. Mag.
10.4 170 .32 Win. Spl.
10.4 180 30-40 Krag
10.5 250 .375 Win.
10.9 150 35 Rem.
11.0 100 .243 Win.
11.1 117 .257 Roberts
11.1 170 8 mm. Mauser
11.3 200 .35 Rem.
11.4 100 .257 Roberts
11.6 100 6 mm. Rem.
11.6 180 .303 British
11.9 180 .300 Savage
12.2 120 7mm-08 Rem.
12.2 150 .300 Savage
12.3 80 6mm. Rem.
13.3 120 6.5 Rem. Mag.
13.4 87 .240 Wby. Mag.
13.5 405 45-70 Govt.
13.7 100 .25-06 Rem.
14.8 140 7mm-08 Rem.
15.0 100 .240 Wby. Mag.
15.1 87 25-06 Rem.
15.1 150 .307 Win.
15.1 165 .308 Win.
15.6 250 .256 Win.
15.7 175 7 mm. Mauser
15.9 300 45-70 Govt.
16.0 120 25-06 Rem.
16.0 200 .356 Win.
16.2 150 .308 Win.
16.3 100 .270 Win.
16.5 180 .308 Win.
16.7 150 .284 Win.
17.3 150 .270 Win.
17.4 150 .280 Rem.
18.5 130 .270 Win
19.1 220 30-06 Spring.
19.3 140 .280 Rem.
19.4 125 .30-06 Spring.
19.5 120 .280 Rem.
19.5 165 .30-06 Spring.
19.7 240 444 Marlin
19.7 180 .30-06 Spring.

20- 29.9 Foot Pounds
20.1 140 .264 Win Mag.
20.1 200 .358 Win.
20.5 165 .280 Rem.
20.5 150 .30-06 Spring.
20.8 150 7mm Rem. Mag.
21.5 100 .257 Wby. Mag.
22.2 117 .257 Wby. Mag.
23.5 175 7mm. Rem. Mag.
23.8 75 .257 Wby. Mag.
25.1 140 .350 Rem Mag.
27.3 200 .35 Whelen
27.8 100 .270 Wby. Mag.
28.1 180 .300 H&H Mag.
28.6 250 .35 Whelen
28.9 150 .270 Wby. Mag.
28.9 160 7mm. Wby. Mag.
29.6 130 .270 Wby. Mag.
29.9 154 7mm. Wby Mag.

30-39.9 Foot Pounds.
31.3 180 .300 Win. Mag.
31.3 220 .300 Win. Mag.
31.4 150 .300 Win. Mag.
31.8 139 7mm Wby. Mag.
33.3 185 8mm. Rem. Mag.
34.4 110 .300 Wby. Mag.
34.5 220 8mm. Rem. Mag.
36.9 200 .338 Win. Mag.
37.0 225 .338 Win. Mag.
37.7 250 .338 Win. Mag.

40- 49.9 Foot- Pounds
40.8 250 .340 Wby. Mag.
40.9 300 .375 H&H Mag.
41.4 200 .340 Wby. Mag.
43.1 165 .300 Wby. Mag.
43.7 220 .300 Wby Mag.
44.3 180 .300 Wby. Mag.
48.1 270 .375 H&H Mag.

50 or more Foot- Pounds
50.0 500 .470 Nitro- Express
52.3 400 .416 Rem. Mag.
54.4 500 .458 Win. Mag.
59.7 410 .416 Rigby
61.7 300 .378 Wby. Mag.
63.2 400 .416 Wby. Mag.
72.1 270 .378 Wby Mag.
74.2 525 .505 Gibbs
83.4 500 .460 Wby. Mag.
85.0 750 .577 Nitro-Express
95.5 900 .600 Nitro-Express

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Posted 02 January 2007 - 08:04 PM

There is some great imfo Red. :yes:
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Posted 02 January 2007 - 08:08 PM

Hey some good info there. I did notice what could be construed as a discrepancy. The 30-06 loads seem to be inverted. They are listed as the 220 gr bullet at 19.1 the 180 gr at 19.7 and 20.5 for the 150 gr. That does not seem to coorelate with what I have read. Generally speaking the heavier the bullet the more felt recoil. Also the 30-06 is usually the max that most people are willing to tolerate. Of course then there are those few that just have to have those at the bottom of the list. Wow.
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Posted 02 January 2007 - 08:17 PM

The reason for the discrepency with the 220- grain 30-06 load is that it isn't loaded as hot as the rest of the 30-06 loads due to it's looooooooooong bearing surface . :D

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Posted 02 January 2007 - 09:02 PM

You may be right but my newest reloading manual using the same powder type for each doesn't bear that out.

IMR 4831 shows the 220 grain load of from 47.1 to 54.7 with velocities of 2100 to 2500 FPS

The 180 gr bullet load from 50.1 to 57.7 gr with velocities from 2400 to 2800 FPS.

The 150 gr bullet load from 54.2 to 58.0 with similar velocities.

I cannot figure how a 220 gr bullet at from 2100 to 2500 fps is going to give lighter recoil than the other two at nearly the same speed.
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Posted 03 January 2007 - 07:24 AM

300 fps is nothing to sneeze at. Check out the 257 Wby. Because of the increase in velocity, the 75 grain gives you a sweeter wack than the 100 or 117 grain. Same for the 270 Wby. The 130 grain gives you a better clout than the 150 does. And the 150 packs more energy on delivery. Same for the 7mm Wby. the 139 grain because of the drastic velocity increase belts you more than the 160 grain does. Check out the 300 Win. mag and Wby too. :D

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Posted 03 January 2007 - 10:16 AM

RedGreen really impressive list of info. I guess I never looked at this sort of thing before. Thanks.
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Posted 03 January 2007 - 01:41 PM

I will have to agree with PA on this one. There are a lot of differant variables with felt recoil including weight of rifle and design of stock. I can say from experance that with my 300WM that the 180s have more felt recoil that the 150s. I have a 300RUM that has more case capacity than the 300WBY and the felt recoil is less than my buddies 338WM. Mine is a Rem Sendero and his is the Browning Abolt. This guide is just a base line.
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Posted 03 January 2007 - 04:27 PM

It's a relative list to be sure. IME, You can always modify the guns and loads to get recoil tolerable.

You simply can't go wrong by adding weight to the gun to reduce recoil. Composite stocks are great for filling ;)

Muzzle breaks work the best with large volume over bored cartridges (Like RUMs). Straight wall cartridges and low powder volume short mags benefit the least. That's why breaks on pistols only seem to reduce muzzle jump but don't reduce recoil that much.

Barrel length also has an effect. Long is good :)
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Posted 04 January 2007 - 11:42 AM

If it kicks too hard for me to feel comfortable shooting it then it's probably too big a caliber for anything I need to shoot. ;) :lol: I use a Mossberg 835 12 ga., 3 1/2" mag. for turkeys. Kicks like a mule but don't even notice it when taking a shot at a bird. With the new recoil pads they have these days, recoil is tamed considerably. Both my .270 W. Encore and my son's 7 mm mag. Ruger Mark II are a pleasure to shoot. :yes:

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Posted 11 January 2007 - 03:24 PM

I have a weatherby mark 5 in .340 weatherby mag. As far as FELT recoil goes, I would shoot a .375 H&H all day before I would shoot the .340. That thing kicks like a mule.
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