Posted 03 April 2007 - 12:11 PM
Posted 03 April 2007 - 01:08 PM
Posted 03 April 2007 - 01:32 PM
Edited by Whitetiger, 03 April 2007 - 01:33 PM.
Posted 03 April 2007 - 02:33 PM
In Ohio it's legal and like Leo it's got its uses. I hunt place in southern Ohio that has neighbors that hunt the deer and have no food source on their property. With the baiting program on this property we pull deer to this property in early season before gun season starts. Once gun season starts it pretty much pushes the deer clear out of the area for the most part. We try not to hunt over the man made bait like Leo referenced and hunt over some natural sources like acorns and other sources.
As soon as the deer associate the bait with hunters, they only eat it at night. IME, it takes getting busted on the stand only once. Baiting has been legal here for ages. It has it's place and usefulness. But if that's all you know how to do, your season is pretty short.
Posted 03 April 2007 - 03:55 PM
Posted 03 April 2007 - 05:21 PM
I've hunted pigs with feeders and it's not as easy as you think. Really big pigs will not come to them ever. In Florida once they get about 200 lbs they're done with baits. Busted once and they're done during daylight regardless of size.
Posted 03 April 2007 - 06:10 PM
But IMO if it isn't illegal in your state then there is absolutely nothing wrong with it.
Posted 03 April 2007 - 06:28 PM
Posted 03 April 2007 - 07:37 PM
Norm I agree 100% but we plant those plots so it's just like the corn or apples.
Only thing I can see is that a food plot is considered a natural food source where as a pile of corn or apples is not.
Illegal here in PA but I don't have a problem with the states that allow it.
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Posted 04 April 2007 - 06:56 AM
Posted 04 April 2007 - 08:07 AM
Mudduck, I heard from a DNR person that Wi. is going to ban baiting state wide. I also heard that another like 20 units are going to be earn a buck. As for the baiting issue...... I'll probably get in trouble here but I think its a lazy way to hunt. Deer are going to eat no matter what. Why not take the time to find there feeding areas and get yourself set up on trails between it and their bedding areas. Lets remember that we're HUNTING.
Not everyone has hunting access to a piece of land that supports a natural food source throughout the season.
IME, if there is a natural food source nearby, especially acorns you are wasting your money baiting. Deer will eat acorns over ANY bait a hunter may try to use for deer. They simply prefer acorns over anything else.
To bait effectively, quite a bit of work and time is involved. You simply can't throw up a feeder and expect success. You have to put the bait where the deer already are frequenting. You have to time it's use so it's not competing with a natural food source. You have to return, refill, and decide if the time to hunt it is right. The number of times you can effectively hunt a baited area are limited.
The more deer that are exposed to the technique the less effective it is.
Posted 04 April 2007 - 08:32 AM
Posted 04 April 2007 - 09:57 AM
Legally in Wisconsin, You can only have 2 gallons of bait out. Period. Half a 5 gallon bucket, less than a grocery bag, it ain't that much, and it certainly isn't enough to"keep" a deer herd on ones property or to Alter their movements. I have never hunted deer over bait, never felt compelled to, and never thought it was worth the effort to haul it in each day. I do understand though that others bait, I am fine with that, as long as they keep it legal-2 gallons. The problem seems to be that a certain number of individuals can't seem to accurately estimate what 2 gallons is.
Jeff got point - we start about July with 3 timed running 10 gallon bucket feeders full of deer corn. We also had 3 gravity feeders full of corn. Last year we probably went through 600 lbs. of the deer corn and I don't know how much on salt blocks and mineral licks. It did help raise the herd noticably this past year over the year before when we didn't do it. I'd been wanting to get permission to plant a food crop in several places, less than an half an acre in two places to offset the cost of the corn. Lots of work either way.
Edited by Rowdy Yates, 04 April 2007 - 10:02 AM.
Posted 04 April 2007 - 12:51 PM
Supplemental feeding is another entirely. I have never seen anything that even comes close to what a good pelleted deer food will do. Expensive yes. Productive? Absolutely. Back in the days when I was a member of a very progressive hunt club we instituted a supplemental feeding program that utilized pellets. Average live weight of the deer we harvested went up 10-15lbs on does and over 20lbs on bucks. The results were a real eye opener. We kept accurate records for four years. Corn feeding and food plots didn't even come close to getting those kinds of results.
Food plots are typically once only feeding deals. Once the deer mow them down. They are done. You're lucky if a well managed one lasts longer than a couple of weeks, (unless they are several acres huge). Corn has little to no nutritional value to deer. They like it. But it doesn't do them much good. Mixing pellets with corn at first gets them started on the pellets and keeps them interested in them. About 25% corn and 75% pellets is a good winter supplemental mix.
Posted 05 April 2007 - 04:53 AM
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