Looking For A New Pair Of Binos
Posted 15 December 2008 - 09:54 PM
Bushnell Legacy WP Series
They say they are "weatherproof." Now, some of the other models say that they are waterproof and fogproof. I am trying to figure out if the "weatherproof" means that they are both waterproof and fogproof or what?? I am assuming that's what it means, but I hate to purchase these and it not be what I want. Can anyone help me out here? Kind of throws me off saying "weatherproof" where some of the other models state waterproof and fogproof specifically.
I have been using a cheap pair of Celestron 10-30x50mm's for the last 7 or 8 years now. The zoom lever broke on me the other day, so they are stuck on like 20x or something. lol. These bino's weren't bad at all, except that they fogged up WAY too easily. I like the zoomable bino's for where I hunt, but I want a pair of good ones now. Any ideas?? I'd like to have a 50mm objective and prefer a 10x-30x, but I'd settle for the 10x-22x.
Any other suggestions are welcome!
Posted 16 December 2008 - 09:31 AM
Edited by Rowdy Yates, 16 December 2008 - 03:24 PM.
Posted 16 December 2008 - 12:23 PM
I too welcome all suggestions. Brandon and I would like to know.
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Posted 16 December 2008 - 09:24 PM
Edited by BrandonT, 16 December 2008 - 09:27 PM.
Posted 17 December 2008 - 12:08 AM
In Bushnell-ese, "Weatherproof" basically just means water resistant. In other words, the product can withstand typical rainy hunting conditions. It is not, however, meant to be out in a monsoon or submerged in water, for example.
The model you inquired about is neither o-ring sealed or nitrogen/argon purged. This means that it can take on water if submerged or if exposed to a particularly heavy rain and also that internal lenses/components can fog due to "extreme" temperature changes or humidity.
Since you've posted a porro prism system binocular, let me say, for what it's worth, that I do prefer the roof prism system to the porro prism system. The trade off is better durability and a lighter/more compact design with the roof prism in exchange for losing some of the depth perception and field of view you have with the porro prism.
If you are convinced that Bushnell is where you want to be, then the Trophy Line is by far the best "bang for the buck" they offer. They are fully multi-coated optics and water/fog proof; meaning the glass is of high quality and the coating(s) allow for a maximum amount of light transmission and that they are indeed o-ring sealed and nitrogen-purged to be 100% fog-free etc. (Every now and then I see these go on sale at places like Gander Mountain for ~$120.) I own a few sets of binos, but I actually like the Trophy 8x42 quite a bit for what they are. They are nice enough to not be considered "junk" and yet inexpensive enough that I don't worry about losing or breaking them. As a result, they are my every day hunting bino. I actually spent a little more money to get the 8x42 over the 10x42 because, to me, the 8x42 were brighter and, obviously, had a better field of view. If I had it to do over again today, I'd probably buy from the Legend Line only because they have RainGuard (actually repels water off the lenses) and a new magnesium chasis which really cuts down on weight. (Of course, I wouldn't enjoy spending the extra couple hundred bucks. )
I understand that a zoomable bino is more of a sticking point for you than brand name or anything else. Unfortunately, as you likely already have seen, Bushnell really doesn't offer anything else in a truly water/fog proof zoomable bino until you step up into the Infinity Line to the tune of ~$500. With that in mind, I would really start giving some of the other manufacturers a look. IMO, while Bushnell Elite riflescopes are on par with most any other manufacturer, if not better, the Bushnell binocular lags behind. (It's funny because I feel Nikon is the exact opposite; their binos are good while their scopes tend to leave something to be desired.) The Nikon Action Zoom Series may be right up your alley. They are waterproof (though no mention of the word "fogproof" is made on these binos so I would double-check both with a salesman/online rep) and I've found them online for as low as $119.
Of course, Leupold only offers zoomable binos in the Switch/Power Gold Ring Series which will run you upwards of ~$900. Burris and Vortex don't even offer a zoomable and Tasco, since being bought out by Bushnell, is basically their "bargain" series... So, your options aren't great. But, I'd at least head somewhere to look through a pair of those Nikons before making any decisions. If all else fails, the binos you originally inquired about are nicely priced and at least offer some water resistance.
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Posted 17 December 2008 - 09:35 AM
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