I Had An Idea
Posted 03 November 2009 - 09:32 AM
It isn't for convenience but cleaning. I like the way an open breech can be so easily swabbed.
Then I thought, wouldn't be really easy to machince an inch long cartridge shaped primer holder that could be placed in any gun that you could then muzzle load with BP?
I know there is a science to the expanding brass sealing gases from going backward. But a real tight fit with some heavy lube might work.
I don't have the time to search the net for this Item if it exists yet. And I don't think Ohio would let you hunt with it.
It seems reasonable to me however. Comments welcomed and If anyone works in a machine shop and wants to send me one I'll pay to try it.
Posted 03 November 2009 - 07:01 PM
Remember the Ark was built by amateurs, the titanic by professionals.
Posted 05 November 2009 - 11:19 AM
With the invention of the paper cartridge, you inserted the cartridge into the breech leaving the twisted end of the cartridge sticking out of the back of the breech. When you closed the breech it cut the back end of the paper cartridge off. You then turned the rifle to the side to dump the remains of the paper and powder, capped the rifle, cocked the hammer and were set to go.
Sharps later has the metal cartridge with the hole in the back where the powder was exposed, and of course from there it went to the actual invention of the metal cartridge and the trap door models.
The amazing thing about the sharps was it was accurate out to 800+ yards. There is the story of Colonial Hirum Berdan who organized the Berdan Sharp Shooters. These were a group of men who were the best shots that could be found. When he was trying to sell the idea of the sharps rifle to President Abraham Lincoln one day. The men he trained were shooting targets at 500 yards. Even the President shot the rifle leaning off a sapling and was amazed at the accuracy of the rifle. To finish the demonstration Colonial Berdan had them put a drawing of Jefferson Davis (life size) out at 800 yards. He then announced he would shoot the picture at that distance. A senator in the crowd suggested he shoot Davis in the eye. Berdan took the shot, the drawing was recovered and there was a hole through the right eye of the drawing. Lincoln then said that he would spend the money on the production of the Sharps rifle.
A very interesting idea you have though.
Posted 06 November 2009 - 12:57 PM
He told me that at his age, he wouldn't want to make anything harder and that buying cartridges is fine with him.
After that he expressed some concern that the primer holder would get stuck in the breech if not made from the ideal steal which he could not specify based on his experience.
I figure most people would rather own two guns than use the drop-in peice to shoot BP from a cartridge gun. And most likely the ODNR would not allow hunting with a 20 gauge that is loaded with BP because it would be hard to see the difference (until you shot) and people might take advantage of that.
I'm not trying to say that there is a need for this, it's just that I'm a tinkerer that can''t leave well enough alone sometimes.
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