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#1 cayugad

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Posted 13 September 2014 - 01:45 PM

I got some new ammunition in for my .44 magnum Ruger Redhawk handgun.  And I had a Simmons 2x20 handgun scope mounted on the B Square mounting system done by the gun smith.  So I was all set to sight in the scope and have a good day on the range...   WRONG!!
 
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The old rule of thumb on at 15 yards, close at 100.  So off a bench I took five shots.  The first four made me smile, the fifth I attributed to Murphy.  Made a scope adjustment and moved the target back to 25 yards.
 
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Shot one and two but something in my brains kept telling me, something is not right with something.  So first thing you do is check mounts and bases.  Checked the rings and found them loose.  OK I said.. that's the problem.  Tighten them and said a bad word at the non exhistant gunsmith.  And made a slight adjustment and fired three and four.  Still, I was steady as a rock and something was not right.  OK...  lets check it all again.
 
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Sure enough...  checked the rings where they meet the B Square base and that was loose.  Tighten them.  Shot, checked them, tried to tighten again, and shot a few more.  On the 12th (number 7) shot of the day, something much more drastic happened.
 
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The B Square mounting system just came apart!  It sheared the screw where the rear sight goes and somewhere in the yard is the rear clamps.  So now the handgun is done.  I guess its time to visit the gunsmith again.  And tell him...  LOCK TIGHT!!  USE LOCK TIGHT!!
 
Over all the Simmons 2x20 did great.  Nice handgun scope.  If the rest of the system would have held together we would be in business.

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Posted 13 September 2014 - 09:02 PM

Man that sucks. Failing mounts can drive you bonkers.

Been there experienced that. Loctite helps but it doesn't make a weak mount stronger.
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Posted 14 September 2014 - 08:24 AM

While the mount was tight as were the rings, the revolver shot an exceptional group.  But as everything loosened up, you can see what the group did.  Is there a better mounting system for the Redhawk?


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Posted 20 September 2014 - 09:14 AM

Just an update...  I called B Square which are a subsidiary of Safari Land.  I spoke to a very pleasant and helpful lady.  I explained what had happened.  She took my information, and the kind of mount that failed and said she would mail me out a new mounting system.  So I am waiting for that.  Now that is customer service in my book.


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Posted 20 September 2014 - 11:06 AM

If you don't plan on removing the mount for a while. I'd probably put some release agent on the gun and bedding glass under the mount.

Ask your gunsmith. He can probably do it.
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Posted 26 September 2014 - 12:06 PM

Well they sent me the new mount.  Trouble is, I have a Ruger Redhawk.  The mount they sent was not for the RedHawk.  But I am going to run the whole works up to the gunsmith and see what he can do.  I hope he does a better job then the last time.  As this thing did not hold up to well.


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Posted 01 October 2014 - 01:03 PM

Well up to the smith I went.  He looked it all over and told me he could not guarantee anything if I used this mounting system.   He claimed, he did not even like to sell them as on the powerhouse handguns, this is not uncommon.  So I told him to put the sights back on the Red Hawk and leave it at that.  He agreed with that.

 

Then he looked at the Mark II mount they sent me.  I asked him if that would hold on a Ruger Mark II bull barrel pistol.  He smiled and said...  yes it would hold.  So I whipped out my Ruger Mark II Bull Barreled Pistol and told him to have at it.

 

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I have the one for the RedHawk mount home now. I kind of like that big horse pistol with open sights.  And since I seldom shoot more then 50 yards it is still a deadly devil.  But this .22 might be a lot of fun squirrel hunting with, after I sight it in of course.


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Posted 03 October 2014 - 11:20 AM

Sorry you had so much trouble with your sighting system.   Can't say as I ever saw a semiauto with a scope.  Looks good.


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Posted 03 October 2014 - 12:02 PM

The neat thing with the mounting system on the .22 caliber Mark II target pistol is, its see through so you can use the open sights as well.  Its been raining every day (snow predicted on Saturday but I have to see it) so I have not had a chance to go outside and put the pistol through the ringer.


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Posted 05 October 2014 - 04:36 PM

I took the Mark II out today.  For being bore sighted it was three inches low and two inches right at 13 yards.  But I got it shooting at 13 yards dead on.  Moved the target back to 25 yards and discovered it was now shooting two inches high.  But I compensated for the high POI and was able to hold a 2 inch group at 25 yards.  I question whether this pistol likes Winchester .22 shells as I had lots of misfires.  And some would pop and some would Bang!!  But over all it was fun to shoot.

 

I tried some 40 yard spinner targets with it.  I was not able to make them spin.  I wonder how high it might have been, or maybe how low it was.  I need to put a target up back at that distance.  I am thinking of sighting it in dead on at 25 yards and then see where it hits at other distances.


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Posted 06 October 2014 - 07:34 AM

If I recall correctly a 22lr drops about 12 inches at 100 yds from a rifle.  I once shot a dead center bullseye at 100 yds with a 22lr revolver at only the second shot.  I had aimed just over the bullseye with the first shot and as I recall it hit about 18 - 20 inches low so I elevated about that amount and nailed it.  My dad made the comment that there was some of that smelly brown stuff oozing out of the barrel.  In order to keep my bragging power on I told my dad that I may never shoot a 22 handgun again at 100 yds just so I can say "the last time I fired a 22 handgun at 100 yds I shot a bullseye".  Lol


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Posted 16 October 2014 - 02:19 PM

I took both the rifle and pistol out today.  I adjusted the scope on the rifle and it shot 30 rounds at 25 yards into a quarter size hole.  The pistol I decided to sight in at 25 yards also.  While it did not shoot a quarter size hole, it did do a good half dollar size group at that distance.  So I am ready for the tree rat red squirrel war.  While shooting a chipmunk made the mistake of coming out into the back lawn at about 40 yards.  Funny thing is...  I let him go.  He was not near the buildings, I was not going to eat him, so I saw no reason to end his life.  But I have to admit, I had him scoped and finger on the trigger and was tempted.  Maybe I am getting soft in my old age. :rolleyes:  


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Posted 16 October 2014 - 03:58 PM

About 5 yrs ago I declared war on both the local population of red squirrels and chipmunks.  I used a TC Contender with a 45/410 barrel with 410 shells.  Got a few reds and a bunch of chipmunks.  This year I didn't even get the gun out and they are all over my pines and in my woodpile.  I just may have to get over my softheartedness and once again teach them to stay away. 


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Posted 17 October 2014 - 02:55 PM

I can tell the dog is no longer around...  them squirrels are down right brave.  I was watching them the other day and normally they'd never let me get this close.  When the dog was alive, they ran in fear every time the door moved.  I just don't want them messing with the new garage.  They touch that and all heck will break loose.


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